1 00:00:09,589 --> 00:00:07,510 the international space station is being 2 00:00:11,990 --> 00:00:09,599 used by scientists from all over the 3 00:00:14,230 --> 00:00:12,000 world to conduct research 4 00:00:17,349 --> 00:00:14,240 that can support future space flight but 5 00:00:19,590 --> 00:00:17,359 also to improve life for people on earth 6 00:00:23,109 --> 00:00:19,600 one such experiment now underway is 7 00:00:25,670 --> 00:00:23,119 using mice as stand-ins for humans to 8 00:00:27,990 --> 00:00:25,680 assess how well a new compound works to 9 00:00:28,950 --> 00:00:28,000 prevent skeletal muscle wasting and 10 00:00:30,550 --> 00:00:28,960 weakness 11 00:00:32,549 --> 00:00:30,560 that's a condition that's faced by 12 00:00:33,830 --> 00:00:32,559 astronauts during a long duration stay 13 00:00:35,350 --> 00:00:33,840 in weightlessness 14 00:00:37,590 --> 00:00:35,360 of course it's also a condition that's 15 00:00:39,910 --> 00:00:37,600 experienced by many people on earth 16 00:00:42,709 --> 00:00:39,920 recently my colleague amiko carter spoke 17 00:00:45,590 --> 00:00:42,719 with dr rosamond smith she's a research 18 00:00:47,510 --> 00:00:45,600 fellow at eli lillian company and is the 19 00:00:49,590 --> 00:00:47,520 principal investigator of the rodent 20 00:00:52,069 --> 00:00:49,600 research 3 mission 21 00:00:54,630 --> 00:00:52,079 amiko asked her to explain why the lack 22 00:00:58,150 --> 00:00:54,640 of gravity in space leads to weakened 23 00:00:59,430 --> 00:00:58,160 muscles for the station crew members 24 00:01:01,189 --> 00:00:59,440 well um 25 00:01:02,950 --> 00:01:01,199 basically our muscles are very 26 00:01:06,710 --> 00:01:02,960 responsive to the amount of resistance 27 00:01:07,670 --> 00:01:06,720 or load that encounter so um for example 28 00:01:09,429 --> 00:01:07,680 when you 29 00:01:12,630 --> 00:01:09,439 lift weights and add more resistance our 30 00:01:15,350 --> 00:01:12,640 muscles get bigger right but when one 31 00:01:17,030 --> 00:01:15,360 has less load or less resistance as you 32 00:01:19,270 --> 00:01:17,040 as happens in the conditions of 33 00:01:21,429 --> 00:01:19,280 microgravity on our muscles our muscles 34 00:01:24,390 --> 00:01:21,439 actually decrease in size or undergo 35 00:01:26,469 --> 00:01:24,400 muscle atrophy or muscle wasting 36 00:01:28,390 --> 00:01:26,479 so we know it happens and 37 00:01:29,910 --> 00:01:28,400 and therefore we do have exercise 38 00:01:32,789 --> 00:01:29,920 equipment aboard the international space 39 00:01:34,469 --> 00:01:32,799 station um so astronauts are exercising 40 00:01:36,550 --> 00:01:34,479 but tell me a little more about this 41 00:01:38,469 --> 00:01:36,560 compound that you are investigating to 42 00:01:40,469 --> 00:01:38,479 help um as a as a possible 43 00:01:42,630 --> 00:01:40,479 countermeasure 44 00:01:44,870 --> 00:01:42,640 well actually so uh 45 00:01:46,870 --> 00:01:44,880 the compound we're developing is uh we 46 00:01:49,749 --> 00:01:46,880 hope to be able to prevent muscle 47 00:01:52,469 --> 00:01:49,759 wasting obviously here at lilly we have 48 00:01:54,389 --> 00:01:52,479 been very interested in 49 00:01:56,789 --> 00:01:54,399 developing this compound for 50 00:01:59,109 --> 00:01:56,799 muscle wasting conditions and uh 51 00:02:01,510 --> 00:01:59,119 diseases that have muscle wasting for 52 00:02:04,230 --> 00:02:01,520 patients on earth but obviously it does 53 00:02:08,790 --> 00:02:04,240 have applications too for astronauts in 54 00:02:11,430 --> 00:02:08,800 space so um yes we're hoping uh that uh 55 00:02:13,589 --> 00:02:11,440 this compound will have activity to be 56 00:02:16,229 --> 00:02:13,599 able to prevent uh muscle wasting 57 00:02:18,550 --> 00:02:16,239 occurring uh not only in people with 58 00:02:21,270 --> 00:02:18,560 diseases that have muscle wasting but 59 00:02:22,390 --> 00:02:21,280 also in the context of microgravity in 60 00:02:23,750 --> 00:02:22,400 space 61 00:02:26,150 --> 00:02:23,760 so you're studying mice in 62 00:02:29,030 --> 00:02:26,160 weightlessness can you tell me what 63 00:02:31,190 --> 00:02:29,040 makes mice a good analog for for 64 00:02:32,949 --> 00:02:31,200 studying you know muscle wasting in 65 00:02:35,509 --> 00:02:32,959 humans 66 00:02:39,670 --> 00:02:35,519 well actually uh it's very interesting 67 00:02:45,110 --> 00:02:42,229 species so actually um 68 00:02:47,350 --> 00:02:45,120 mice are a very good surrogate and 69 00:02:49,270 --> 00:02:47,360 end up being a very good species to look 70 00:02:51,110 --> 00:02:49,280 at muscle wasting obviously they're 71 00:02:53,430 --> 00:02:51,120 smaller and more convenient and easier 72 00:02:55,030 --> 00:02:53,440 to do lots of different measurements and 73 00:02:57,030 --> 00:02:55,040 so uh 74 00:02:59,990 --> 00:02:57,040 it makes sense and we anticipate we'll 75 00:03:02,229 --> 00:03:00,000 learn a lot about what may happen in 76 00:03:05,350 --> 00:03:02,239 people by studying 77 00:03:07,589 --> 00:03:05,360 in mice initially now tell me about the 78 00:03:08,550 --> 00:03:07,599 hardware that is being used for this 79 00:03:10,309 --> 00:03:08,560 investigation and what are the 80 00:03:11,350 --> 00:03:10,319 astronauts doing to help collect the 81 00:03:12,710 --> 00:03:11,360 data 82 00:03:15,430 --> 00:03:12,720 well i was just quite a complex 83 00:03:17,430 --> 00:03:15,440 experiment at last uh six weeks they 84 00:03:19,670 --> 00:03:17,440 they were there's very specialized 85 00:03:21,509 --> 00:03:19,680 hardware just to get the mice up into 86 00:03:23,990 --> 00:03:21,519 the space station they're in a 87 00:03:25,270 --> 00:03:24,000 specialized habitat in the transporter 88 00:03:28,070 --> 00:03:25,280 in the dragon 89 00:03:30,470 --> 00:03:28,080 rocket the spacex rocket dragon capsule 90 00:03:32,869 --> 00:03:30,480 that took them to the space station and 91 00:03:34,229 --> 00:03:32,879 also when they're sort of living in the 92 00:03:36,470 --> 00:03:34,239 space station they're in a special 93 00:03:38,630 --> 00:03:36,480 habitat so that provides them with food 94 00:03:41,350 --> 00:03:38,640 and water and controls the lighting and 95 00:03:43,270 --> 00:03:41,360 the temperature etc but then when we're 96 00:03:46,070 --> 00:03:43,280 actually performing our experiment we 97 00:03:48,550 --> 00:03:46,080 also have other hardware measures body 98 00:03:51,030 --> 00:03:48,560 composition also the grip strength which 99 00:03:53,429 --> 00:03:51,040 is a measure of muscle functioning mice 100 00:03:55,910 --> 00:03:53,439 there's a brand new way in which this 101 00:03:58,070 --> 00:03:55,920 has not been done before in mice on the 102 00:03:59,589 --> 00:03:58,080 space station and to do some of those 103 00:04:02,070 --> 00:03:59,599 measures we have 104 00:04:04,550 --> 00:04:02,080 anesthetized mice 105 00:04:06,630 --> 00:04:04,560 to be able to uh complement measure 106 00:04:08,309 --> 00:04:06,640 their body composition so that's another 107 00:04:10,789 --> 00:04:08,319 specialized piece of hardware that was 108 00:04:11,990 --> 00:04:10,799 designed to be able to allow 109 00:04:15,750 --> 00:04:12,000 us to 110 00:04:18,069 --> 00:04:15,760 uh undergo anesthesia so um this 111 00:04:19,909 --> 00:04:18,079 experiment involves a lot of hands-on 112 00:04:22,710 --> 00:04:19,919 work by the astronauts 113 00:04:24,950 --> 00:04:22,720 i was very fortunate just a few days ago 114 00:04:27,110 --> 00:04:24,960 when uh we were at our four-week time 115 00:04:28,950 --> 00:04:27,120 point in our experiment to go and watch 116 00:04:31,510 --> 00:04:28,960 the live feed from the space station and 117 00:04:34,469 --> 00:04:31,520 see tim peake doing the thumb work on 118 00:04:36,950 --> 00:04:34,479 our experiment um and tim cook or the 119 00:04:39,510 --> 00:04:36,960 other astronaut was doing measures for 120 00:04:41,590 --> 00:04:39,520 the body composition so it takes quite a 121 00:04:44,469 --> 00:04:41,600 lot of astronaut time there 122 00:04:47,350 --> 00:04:44,479 it's very complex measures and 123 00:04:49,510 --> 00:04:47,360 afar so good we're already getting some 124 00:04:51,110 --> 00:04:49,520 exciting data 125 00:04:53,270 --> 00:04:51,120 so it'll be interesting hearing about 126 00:04:55,430 --> 00:04:53,280 the results of this investigation once 127 00:04:57,590 --> 00:04:55,440 it's over and can you tell me though 128 00:05:00,790 --> 00:04:57,600 after studying the results how do you 129 00:05:03,749 --> 00:05:00,800 hope that it will apply to astronauts 130 00:05:06,150 --> 00:05:03,759 but also people living here on earth 131 00:05:08,550 --> 00:05:06,160 well as you can imagine if this if our 132 00:05:11,189 --> 00:05:08,560 experiment is successful and we are able 133 00:05:14,150 --> 00:05:11,199 to fence the muscle wasting the er in 134 00:05:17,430 --> 00:05:14,160 ice in the infant's conditions uh it 135 00:05:19,110 --> 00:05:17,440 will be extra evidence that our compound 136 00:05:21,909 --> 00:05:19,120 can uh 137 00:05:25,110 --> 00:05:21,919 prevent that uh prevent muscle wasting 138 00:05:27,830 --> 00:05:25,120 and of course people include those data 139 00:05:30,710 --> 00:05:27,840 and into our drug discovery efforts as 140 00:05:31,670 --> 00:05:30,720 we're working to develop uh new drugs 141 00:05:34,310 --> 00:05:31,680 and novel 142 00:05:36,710 --> 00:05:34,320 beta drugs to help patients who have 143 00:05:39,189 --> 00:05:36,720 muscle wasting diseases on earth these 144 00:05:41,670 --> 00:05:39,199 are diseases such as muscular dystrophy 145 00:05:44,950 --> 00:05:41,680 als certain types of cancers that 146 00:05:45,749 --> 00:05:44,960 moment there's really no uh no treatment 147 00:05:46,870 --> 00:05:45,759 for 148 00:05:49,270 --> 00:05:46,880 these 149 00:05:50,870 --> 00:05:49,280 muscle wasting diseases 150 00:05:53,510 --> 00:05:50,880 we uh wish you best of luck on this